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This week on the podcast we have a familiar face!
Spencer Haws comes on to talk about a very interesting, and surprisingly lucrative, side hustle both he and Jared have been working on for the last year: the Amazon Influencer Program.
In this episode, Spencer and Jared talk about their experience with the program, discuss the different strategies they used to grow this side business, and share some insider tips for succeeding.
Jared also reveals that he teamed up with Authority Hacker to create a course that helps people through the entire process.
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They begin with a brief overview of what the Amazon Influencer Program is all about: creating shoppable videos and posting them on Amazon’s product pages. By doing this, you get a sliver of Amazon’s massive traffic.
But before you can participate, you need to get accepted into the program.
Jared gives a rundown of the primary requirements, and then he and Spencer talk about the path they each took to get accepted into the program.
Spencer even shares an Amazon Influencer Program secret he hasn’t shared before!
They talk about making the first three videos for your account, and why they’re important. If your videos get rejected three times, you won’t be able to participate in the program.
With that in mind, Spencer talks about what makes a great first video and lets listeners know what not to do.
He and Jared also talk about whether or not you need to show your face in the videos, what type of product features to discuss, and how to approach Amazon’s long list of rules when making videos.
They also share some of the mistakes they made, which got some of their videos rejected.
Then Spencer shares his personal journey on the program, which he joined in January 2023, and talks about adding videos gradually. By December of that year, he peaked at $6k for the month.
To give an idea of how passive the program is, now he’s earning an average of $1500 a month and hasn’t added any videos for the last 7 months.
Jared shares his story, too.
He got accepted in May 2023 and frontloaded a lot of the work, publishing +200 videos in his first month, which led to earnings of $1000.
He continued to gradually upload videos, and he’s currently earning around $3k to $4k consistently per month.
Then they move backwards slightly, and Spencer talks about how he got his videos done. The first ones he did himself, and then he outsourced the next 1000.
He shares where he found people to create the videos, how he paid them, and how much he paid them. He also shares some of the pros and cons to this approach.
When it’s Jared’s turn, he shares his strategy for growing his Amazon Influencer account. Jared did the bulk of his own videos, reviewing products that he had around his house, his neighbors’ houses, and his parent’s house.
He even shares a cool hack for accessing even more products for videos.
Equally importantly, he talks about how long he spent doing his videos and how he became super efficient for the best possible ROI.
To close out the interview, they share some important insights they’ve gathered about slightly over a year in the program.
These revolve around reviewing higher priced products, showing lots of close-ups, skipping long winded introductions, seasonality, creating SOPs, among others.
All in all, this is a fantastic, information-packed episode if you’re curious about the program and looking to get started, or if you’re already using it and want some fresh ideas.
Topics Spencer Haws Talks About
- What the Amazon Influencer Program is all about
- What it means to be able to post on Amazon
- How he got accepted into the program
- A secret bit of Amazon Influencer news
- His first three videos
- What makes a great first video
- The do’s and don’ts of making videos
- Mistakes he’s made while in the program
- How he outsourced video creation
- How much he’s been earning
- How passive the program is
- Insider hacks after over a year in the program
Links & Resources
Transcript
Jared: All right. Welcome back to the niche pursuits podcast. And today we’re joined by who is that? Is that Spencer Haas?
Spencer: It is indeed Spencer Haws. Believe it or not. I’m actually the founder of the podcast here, but you’re a wonderful host. So I’m glad to turn it over to you.
Jared: Hey, you told me to host today. So I’m hosting, we are here.
We are doing a joint episode. Normally we do these on Fridays where we recap the news that’s going on in the industry. We talk about, um, our side hustles. Uh, we talk about a weird niche. I will say that it was such so habitual. I almost brought a weird niche for today and realized we’re not doing that, but we are talking about a side hustle.
You and I are going to spend the next hour. So talking about our Amazon influencer program, and it’s our journey on it because we just Have gone through one year on it, um, really quickly. And then I want to get your introduction on it because you’re actually the one that got me interested in it, but we just finished a year on the program and we both made videos about that first year.
We were talking about that and about off air. Uh, just about how interesting of a program it was, how surprisingly successful it was for both of us, and a lot of the stuff that we went about differently. And so we thought it’d be really good to have a podcast episode where we kind of dual share our process and experiences.
Spencer: Yeah, you know, I think it’s really interesting, and for a lot of people listening, right, it’s been, uh, Over a year, right? Um, since, since we got started, we’ve got actually for me a little bit longer for you. It’s just over a year. Uh, and to be able to look back and reflect of like, okay, this was a new idea a year and a half ago for me.
And now to see how much money I’ve made and how, how it’s going, like, is this really passive? Uh, and so I answered a lot of those questions in a, a short YouTube video, uh, that I made. Uh, as you mentioned, I know you made one as well. And so I’m happy to talk about a lot of the findings that I’ve made here, you know, over the last year and a half with the influencer program, and we can dive a lot deeper into this subject.
Um, I know you as well, like you said, you did a YouTube video, uh, but you actually behind the scenes have been recording a course, a video course, uh, from what I understand. So. I actually, if you would just give us 30 seconds of, of what that was. And then maybe we’ll talk about that later, but for the most part, we’ll talk about what you and I have done over the last year and a half.
Jared: Yeah, I partnered up with authority hacker to make a course on it, to help people from A to Z, get started, get accepted, make videos. I think the key thing. That the course addresses that we’re going to get into today is this program is so good because of the ROI and you have to nail the ROI. You have to get your return, but you have to do it with as little time invested as possible.
It’s about balancing that. And so that’s really, I’d say what the course really focuses on teaching is how to, how to maximize your ROI on the program, but we’ll get into a lot of that today, but. There’s a course for it now. It’s live this week. And so we can talk more about it later.
Spencer: Yeah, no, that’s awesome.
If people want to check it out, we’re going to have a link in the description. Uh, people can go to that, um, or they can go to niche pursuits. com slash. Product review profits. Uh, so that’s, that’s Jared’s course that he teamed up with authority hacker, but yeah, let’s, uh, let’s jump into you and I story. All right.
So,
Jared: um, kicking it off, you were on the program, like you mentioned many months before. I joined, we both got accepted. And this is one of the most important things that people need to hear is how to get accepted. Um, many of you are going to be familiar with the Amazon associates program. That’s just a simple application.
And I don’t remember how to apply now or what they, I think it’s just, you get accepted basically. Like, I’m not sure there’s an acceptance as much as you just enter your information and you have an associates account, influencers different. You have to go through a multi part acceptance video to get shoppable videos.
Let’s give a quick highlight. Or a quick overview of what the Amazon influencer program is. And then we’ll talk about how to get accepted. The influencer program covers a lot of different things. Uh, it’s far more wide than I think I knew. And I, I think you’re in the same boat, but what we’re talking about today is one specific aspect of it.
And it’s called shoppable videos. And it’s the idea. That you can get your videos, quick, short, one, two, three minute videos, where you talk about the product and show the product. You can get those videos on Amazon’s actual product page. And if people watch a bit of that video and then go on to buy, you get a commission.
And so the big difference here for a lot of you listening is that you don’t have to drive traffic. You’re capitalizing on Amazon’s traffic. Um, and that’s amazing.
Spencer: Yeah. And I want to drive that point home. Like I didn’t fully realize this. Like you don’t need a website or, uh, any other place to send traffic to Amazon.
Like Amazon gets billions of visitors every month. And you can have a sliver of that traffic. Like you literally get a video on the Amazon product checkout page, right? Like your video is right there. If somebody clicks it and watches it. So that for me was the big light bulb. And so, yeah, I just wanted to emphasize that, like you’re not sending traffic from anywhere.
Jared: They’ve got to be the biggest e com store in the world, right. By like a country mile, probably.
Spencer: Yeah. Yeah. So
Jared: anyways, yeah. Yeah. That’s the big, that’s the big, like, if you’re trying to understand, like, what’s the big deal I’m on the associates program, Lottie Dottie. I, so I have to make videos now. That’s the big deal.
It’s like, this is very unique, um, in terms of what you get to take advantage of. And because of that, like, the traffic is, is, is crazy. So, okay. That’s the best part about it. Probably the worst part about it is you have to qualify, you have to qualify and then get your videos approved. So it’s a two step process.
Um, you qualify with what’s called a qualifying social media account. It is either YouTube, Tik TOK, Facebook, or Instagram, Facebook and Instagram have to be business accounts. Super simple. If you want to switch your personal one over, um, now it’s, they don’t tell us what it is, but generally speaking at time of recording, it’s like We’ll call it a minimum of a thousand followers or subscribers, probably more than that, you know, but definitely no more than like five or 10, 000 needed.
It’s somewhere in that range. And then it also has an engagement component. Um, the engagement component is like likes and shares and comments and these sorts of things. Uh, so you can’t just, you know, have a Facebook page. It’s got 10, 000 followers, but no one has commented in five years. You haven’t posted in a while that won’t get accepted.
It’s some combination. What’d you use to get accepted? Um, I don’t even think I’ve ever, I’ve asked you that.
Spencer: Yeah. So I actually used, um, for, for the influencer account that I have right now, I used, uh, my YouTube channel. Okay. Um, and so it was, uh, my YouTube channel and the approval process that is really pretty interesting is just that it’s all automated in terms of that initial approval.
And so you just submit. YouTube channel. It syncs up with it and it tells you instantly, it’s like, okay, you’re approved. And so it runs whatever checks for how many followers or subscribers you have, uh, or the engagement metrics they’re looking for. And it says, You’re approved, right? But of course, that’s not the end of it.
As we’ll talk about here.
Jared: You, I’m sure you’ve gotten a lot of like emails and comments about this over the last year and a half. Do you have any other insights on what it takes to get accepted? Or for, I’m thinking about somebody listening. He’s like, I don’t have, you know, a YouTube account with 40, 000 subscribers.
You know, for someone listening, like, do you have any other insights about what you’ve heard or what you’ve seen or what you’ve talked to people about in terms of what does and what doesn’t help get accepted?
Spencer: Uh, kind of what we hit on a little bit is some sort of minimum number of followers and don’t know what that is.
I’ve heard of people with as little as like 500 followers, um, get accepted. Uh, but usually I would think you need at least 1000 probably a little more would be safe. Uh, but then I think the engagement Is, is probably key. Um, if you’ve got, you know, a thousand really engaged followers that are commenting, liking, uh, that’s going to go a lot further than having like 10, 000 followers that aren’t very engaged.
So that’s my only insight. And because, you know, why not? We’re on the podcast. I’ll actually share, um, something that I don’t think I’ve shared, uh, before, but I actually got approved for a second Amazon influencer account
Jared: for
Spencer: a niche Facebook page, uh, that I have. Um, I just thought, you know, why not? I’ve got a Facebook page now.
It had over 10, 000 followers. Let’s see if I can get approved different email address, you know, different Amazon account. Uh, and it did. It got instantly approved. Now I, that one, I haven’t gone through the whole process of adding any videos or anything like that. Uh, so, so I’ve done it twice now with a Facebook page and a YouTube account.
Jared: You know, it’s interesting that we talk about this. I know in the community, in the niche pursuits community, it comes up quite a bit, like how to get accepted, what to use, but a lot of. What we’re talking about in other episodes of the podcast parlays perfectly into this. Cause a lot of people are say, turning to Facebook and we’ve interviewed a lot of people over the last couple of months who are using Facebook traffic to build a brand.
Um, there’s people who are using, um, email newsletters and then pointing people to different social media accounts and stuff. So, uh, there’s like, I got accepted with one of my websites, a YouTube channel I had built for the website. It wasn’t. It was a secondary thing. I built it based on the content we were creating for the website because embedding videos into blog posts was a really helpful thing.
And so that grew over time and there it was, and it was something to use. So I think, I don’t know. I think that a lot of the other activities that people are doing with kind of brand building as a high level topic serve this thing really well and will help you get accepted into the program with a lot of your other activities.
Spencer: Right. And. You know, I think when people hear the word influencer, they might be a little bit scared. They’re like, well, I’m not an influencer. I don’t have a lot of followers. Um, but even if you’re starting from zero, like you listen to this podcast today, you have nothing. Um, you can go out and start a Facebook page.
And as I’ve shown, uh, I was able to build 10, 000 followers on a Facebook page within 30 days. You can do this using paid ads, you know, organic approaches. Um, you can get likes pretty cheap on Facebook for somewhere between five and 10 cents a like. So if you’re willing to put down 100 or as much as 1, 000 right to get a following on Facebook.
You can probably get approved, uh, to the Amazon influencer, uh, program.
Jared: I mean, one final story on that. I was talking with a neighbor, you know, she’s a stay at home mom, raising her a couple of kids. She’s got an Instagram account where, you know, she posts about everything under the sun, what she’s doing, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Uh, sometimes stuff around the house, all that she’s got 1800 followers, plenty of engagement. She switched her account over to, uh, Instagram business and bam, got accepted the first day. So, you know, she’s like, I didn’t even think about, you know, That thought it kind of had to be like this business approach.
You can make it that, but you can sometimes just use something that you’ve already driven traffic to, or have built up just kind of throughout the years without a business focus.
Spencer: Right, exactly. And so it doesn’t have to be super difficult to, to sort of pass this first step. Um, now the second step of getting your first three videos is, could be a little bit more difficult, right?
Jared: We don’t need to go into like the semantics of The next, like why and what it is like, but suffice to say, if you want videos to go onto Amazon pages, which is what we did and where we’ve earned all of our income from the Amazon influencer program, you have a second step. And that second step is getting your first three videos approved.
It’s not a, uh, automated process that I know of. It seems to be very manual because it takes a while. Um, it only took about a week for me. Uh, but that was over a year ago. And I mean, who knows now what it is? Uh, it takes time. Let’s put it that way. You submit your first three videos and they get reviewed and they either get accepted or they get rejected.
You need them to be accepted. Your first three now past those first three, they don’t get manually reviewed. Right. Those first three have to get accepted. Here’s the kicker. Here’s why it’s important is if you, uh, if you get rejected three times, you get kicked out of the program for good. And no, it’s not just hearsay or happenstance.
Like we have people in the community that comment and like, I just got kicked out for good. I don’t really know what to do now. So it’s not to scare people, but you need to make good videos. You need to put time and effort into those first three videos to get them accepted.
Spencer: Right. Yeah. Uh, It’s obviously very important that you get those first three videos.
Then after that you can submit, you know, a dozen videos a week, you know, if you want, and those just automatically get added to your, um, influencer account. So this is, um, really interesting. I got approved on my first three videos on my first try.
Jared: I was going to say, I don’t think we ever talked about this because It was in the early days of it.
And we were just kind of mentioning it here and there. You were just beginning to talk about it. So I don’t think I’ve ever heard the story about your first three videos.
Spencer: Yeah, my first three videos got approved on the first try. So, um, I, I knew that it was really important that they get approved. And so I talked to some people, um, to make sure I was doing it, right.
I kind of listened to what the best practices were and, uh, I guess I nailed it, um, you know, but I’ve had other people that they do great videos. And they’ve been rejected. So I thought it would, might be important to talk a little bit about what makes a great first video. Um, because it’s a little bit different, you know, if you’re trying to make like a really professional, well produced video, that is not what Amazon is looking for, right?
If you’re thinking, Oh, this needs to be a corporate style video with great transitions and music and you
Jared: roll
Spencer: slow motion and B roll and you know, a story jump cut. That, that is not that, that will get you rejected. What they want is literally somebody that will pick up their phone, you know, and just record.
Hey, I’m Spencer. I’ve got this pen today. I’m going to give you three reasons why I really like this clicky pen. Right? Um, that’s it. Like, they want, um, A, uh, first person, you know, selfie style, uh, video. And, and that’s, what’s one really important aspect of it that I will point out, I did it with my webcam that you guys are looking at this background sitting at my desk right here.
That’s how I did my first three videos. Uh, basically I recorded it and with my face and said, Hey, I’m going to You know, I’m spencer. I’m gonna be reviewing this pen here today. And then I changed my camera angle down to just point at my desk. And so I got a really close up, you know, of of my pen, right is what I did.
And, um, and so my face wasn’t in 50 percent of the video is just, you know, Kind of in the first half, second half was just me showing the features of the pen.
Jared: So so much in there. Let’s let’s i’m glad you went I’m glad you went into this because there’s so many things we could unpack there First off is the question a lot of people will have for the first three videos or beyond Do you need to show your face?
Do you show your face? I can tell you if I show my face But like generally speaking, what are what are what are best practices?
Spencer: Yeah for the first three videos I think you should Uh, show your face just to show that you’re, you’re just a normal person, but you do not have to have to, you do not have to, we don’t know, they don’t list a rule, right?
I just feel like if somebody is manually reviewing the video and you’re like, Hey, this guy’s normal, he really is, you know. That gives you like a green checkmark.
Jared: I like to liken it like a first date. Like you could just wear a t shirt to your first date and might be working great, but you probably ought to put on a decent shirt and shower before your first date.
But yeah, once you’ve been going out for two or three years, you could probably just wear whatever you want.
Spencer: You can forget to comb your hair that day and it’ll be okay. It’s all good. Um, yeah. So, but beyond the first three videos, You do not need to show your face. Right. You can just be the camera pointing at your desk.
You’re pointing out the, the object. Um, it could even just be, you know, you recording and not even, uh, showing your hands necessarily. It, it just, you’re showing a closeup of the product. Right. Um, so yeah. Uh, sometimes my videos have a face in them. Sometimes they don’t. Yeah.
Jared: I was the same way. I, I, I just, I did my first three really well.
Um, you know, I, I did like an introduction with my face and then I really try to make sure I showcase stuff really clearly. And it’s not to say like I, I cheapened out now and I do bad videos, but I just covered every base and going back to that ROI conversation, which we’ll get into probably a little bit more later.
But now I’m more about like, how do I produce a video that serves its purpose to help people make a buying decision? In as little time as possible, but that’s not the approach I took to the first three videos. I want to make sure it was really, really, really good. But like you said, in the vein of what they want, they don’t, it’s hard to even call them a review video.
Like my course is, it’s called product reviews. And yet I’m always reticent just because it is a review video in that, that helps everyone understand that the, kind of the high level of it. But you’re really just showcasing the product. You’re not really telling people like this has, you know, 25 BTU’s of, uh, of burner power and like people don’t, they can read that in the sales page.
They want to just know like how fast does it boil your water or if you’re just kind of showcasing stuff rather than reviewing the product and comparing it.
Spencer: Yeah. And in the vein of like. Keeping it real, which is what Amazon wants. They just want a real person reviewing like a purchase that they’ve made.
You just need to think about, Hey, I’m just a, I’m a guy in, in my garage with a product I’ve used. Here’s what I like about it. And here’s maybe one thing that could be better. Right about it. Or, you know, or you’re thinking about a stay at home mom, right? They’re, they’re using their kitchen products all the time.
They finally are pulling out their phone and saying, Hey, here’s this can opener I’ve had for a long time. I love it. It’s great. You know, if it did this, it’d be a little better, but otherwise, Hey, it’s been great. So, and that’s the kind of casual approach you want to take.
Jared: There’s a lot of, I’ll just say like rules.
And I think this is where people will get tripped up in their first three videos and beyond, but I think you get the hang of it. And it’s pretty rare for me to get a video rejected now because of one of Amazon’s rules. But I know in the beginning, looking at that list of rules is a little bit overwhelming and will be one of the big reasons that people get.
Their first three videos rejected, um, maybe from your approach, like, how did you go about that? Cause there are long list of rules. Did it, did you study it? Was it a big deal for you? Has it been a big deal for you? And have you navigated those rules to make sure it, maybe give people some examples of what they are.
Yeah.
Spencer: Yeah, I did look at all the rules, sort of the terms of service, right? A lot of it’s, um, you know, just a lot of common sense, right? Um, but some of the things that maybe aren’t quite as common sense are things like don’t showing barcodes. Which you’d be surprised
Jared: how often they show up in things.
Spencer: Right. Don’t, don’t show a personal information of any kind. Don’t accidentally have your driver’s license or something else in the background. Um, and don’t mention prices ever. Um, that’s, that’s a big one because I. I don’t know that I would have done that on my own. That one’s a little counterintuitive, uh, but it, it makes sense when you think about it, that Amazon prices are always changing, so they don’t want you to say, Hey, it’s 20 bucks when.
You know, it’s on sale for 15 or really it’s 25, right? So don’t mention any prices. Um, yeah, don’t show any personal information. Don’t show barcodes. Um, trying to think of anything else that was like a really big deal. Just. Like feature one product only, uh, you know, in your videos, don’t be showing three or four, uh, just show one and try not to have a lot of distractions or other things going on in the background.
Those are probably some of the general guidelines
Jared: for me. The one that has tripped me up the most, which it doesn’t happen often, but it’s like the medical claim one. Um, and this one’s kind of bizarre. Like, I know I got it lotion rejected because I was like, I have dry skin. So I put this on and you’re like, you cannot make false medical claims.
Spencer: Do not say that about dry skin.
Jared: Yeah. I was like, it’s lotion. Like, it’s kind of intuitive that like, that’s what it’s for, but okay. So it’s like, you know, here’s this lotion. Let me show you what it looks like. So you gotta, you know, there’s some stuff to navigate around medical claims and that sort of thing.
And, um, I know I did an unboxing video. The inherent nature of unboxing it is that you’re at your shipping labels there and your address is on it. I’ve had that happen. I’ve done a car, like a review about a car product, your license plates in it. That got rejected. I’m trying to think of some other things that, um, that’ll, that’ll, that’ll be flags.
Spencer: Yeah. Yeah. Some of those basic things. Um, and again, for the first three videos in particular, um, make sure you’re doing a good job. I guess the other thing to do to make sure you have a good video is make sure you show lots of closeups of the product, right? I’ve. Um, I had a lot of people, and we’ll talk about this, that helped me make videos, uh, and that’s been a big feedback point that I have to give them a lot, is they’re just kind of holding back the product way back here, they’re saying it’s great, but really I want them holding it, you know, I’m not going to get a good shot, but you want it like super, super close where just a portion of it’s taking up the whole screen because that’s what people want.
Jared: Let’s talk about now that we’re in what that looks like, but I want to pause here if we could, maybe we can give people a bit of a tease about, you know, Hey, we’ve been through a year. What kind of money are we talking about here? How many videos did we make? Yeah. Spencer, you know, this in the podcast, we do like to find out the end.
Before we get there and break it down. So what’s the end look like? What’s a year plus on the program. Give us some numbers of your comfortable sharing, and then we’ll get into what the timeline was. Cause now that we’re through the acceptance process, we can get into what it really looked like on a practical scale for us.
Spencer: Yeah, no, this is good. And I’m prepared to share some numbers. Oh, you prepared for the pot.
Jared: Good for you. All right, great. You’re a good guest, Spencer.
Spencer: I know. Uh, thank you. Um, so. Last year. So I started really high. It was like January of 2023, I think is when I put out my first video. Uh, and the ramp up was really slow.
Didn’t have a lot of earnings in the first, second, third month. Right. But by the time I was six months in that summer, uh, every month after that was over a thousand dollars a month, right? It’s 1500, 2000. Um, and then of course. Holiday season end of last year, November was about 3000 and December was over 6, 000, uh, with Christmas, uh, buying.
And so, and then now, um, we’ll, we’ll talk a lot about what I’ve done, uh, since, but I’ll just simply say I haven’t added a lot of new videos. Um, but my earnings are still pretty consistently at about 15, 1, 600 a month. I mean, I just looked, my last 30 days are like square at like 1, 530 in the last 30 days.
Uh, and all of this. Without me adding any videos in the last seven months, really since the end of last year. Uh, and so that gives people an idea of like, Hey, peak season. I did like 6, 000 in December. Now I’m consistently 15, 1, 600 a month. Uh, it’s been a nice little side income for sure.
Jared: It’s crazy. Cause it has.
All the tenants we love about say blogging and SEO, which is that longevity, right? You basically just summed it up. Like I haven’t done anything in seven months and I’m still earning about the same amount. And you know, it would, it would be reasonable to suggest that over time that’ll go down. Like products will stop being in stock or they’ll change the model or your video will be out of date or somebody will make a better, like, I don’t know.
That’s how content works as well. Like blogging, kind of like over time, you’ll lose that if you don’t continue to kind of update it or keep it live. But it has all those tenants of blogging in terms of longevity, but it doesn’t take six months to a year to get going. I know I was earning three days after I uploaded my first video, not much, but you know, and so it’s got both sides of the coin.
It’s really pretty crazy.
Spencer: So I’d be curious to hear your update, just to give, you know, a general overview of like, how well have you done, um, you know, recently with the influencer program.
Jared: I also got my numbers ready for this, uh, figuring we’d talk timeline. I got accepted end of May of 2023 Memorial Day weekend here in the States.
Um, I front loaded a lot of videos. So unlike, um, you were, you kind of had a nice, slow, steady trajectory with your videos. I went really hard in the beginning. Uh, I did 225 or so, 229. I just have it here in my first month and then tapered off, but still I hit a thousand videos by the end of 2023. And because of that.
Uh, uh, my earnings were about 1, 000 in the first month, actually just over 1, 000 in my first 30. That’s
Spencer: incredible.
Jared: Yeah. It was pretty stunning. Um, I, I wasn’t expecting that, but it was great. And that, that was cool because that gave me motivation to keep making those videos. And then, so I was earning between two and 3, 000 a month.
Until we hit the holidays. And then in November, I broke, I barely broke 4, 000. I remember gloating about how I’d beaten you by, I think over 1, 000 or something. And then you crushed me in December with your over 6, 000. I was still pretty happy with, I earned 4, 000 in November and I earned 4, 000 in December.
Um, and so, um, still had a great Q4 sales season since then. I’ve uploaded about maybe 200 or videos or so this year. Um, which sounds like a lot, but really that’s only maybe 25 or 30 a month. Cause we’re seven, eight months into 2024. Um, and my earnings were about 1500 to 2000 in January, February. But they’ve bounced back to between three and 4, 000 a month, every month.
So that’s
Spencer: incredible.
Jared: Um, and so it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s landed anywhere in that three to 4, 000 range. Uh, summer’s always, summer was a little slower last year. It looks a little slower this year. So maybe it’ll be a little below that, but yeah, it’s always, it’s been in that range ever since.
Spencer: Yeah, no, that’s really good.
And, um, I, I failed to mention that the number of videos I have is like 1, 067. I want to say, uh, I’m looking now, 1, 076, uh, is how many videos, uh, I have and. Almost 100 percent of them were, um, uploaded at the, by the end of last year. I think I had 30 or 40 videos and maybe in January that that were uploaded.
Right. So, but basically I haven’t done anything, uh, this year. So that gives people an idea. I’m at 1, 076 videos. You’re at like 12 or 1300, maybe.
Jared: I should have pulled it up, but yeah, it’s like 1200 or something like that, just over 12.
Spencer: Yeah. Um, so, uh, it, it, it’s. It’s a super fascinating, um, program for, for all the reasons that we mentioned, but also because, yeah, I really haven’t done anything now for seven months and it’s still been this like 1, 500 a per month at this point.
For me, it’s just. Pure profit. I’m not putting any time. Nobody’s managing anything. The videos are just up there. People are finding them on Amazon, watching, and then buying something and I’m making a commission.
Jared: Well, speaking of profit, let’s get into profit only as a transition point, because you and I went about.
So if you hear a lot of similarities in the first half of this interview, there are, but this is where you and I took two very different paths. And I think it’s really cool to talk about. I’ve always enjoyed the fact that you and I took very different paths and yet have found success in the program because it speaks to its versatility.
It speaks to how. There isn’t just one way to do it. And, um, and that’s why I think this podcast episode, the second half will be so interesting for people. There’s many ways to, to go about this. Um, how about you talk about your approach? I’ll talk about my approach and then we’ll get into the things maybe that you’ve learned scaling and monetizing.
And then I can also talk about the same thing because your approach, your scaling and your monetizing will look and have looked very different than mine. So your approach. Tell us about the way you went about it.
Spencer: Yeah, no, this will be really fascinating for, for listeners. They can compare and they can look at these two approaches and see if one is a better fit for them and where they currently are in their business.
Um, so my approach. When I started, I did the first six videos. I believe it was myself. I recorded it. I recorded all the products and it was my intention to do a bunch more myself. However, uh, just for some background, like the Amazon influencer, Business isn’t my primary business, right? Um, I have niche pursuits.
I own link whisper. I have other projects going on that take up a lot of my time. And so as, as getting into this, I was like, this is a super fascinating, uh, business model. I really like it. My other businesses are doing really well and take up a lot of my time. This is a distraction, but I want to explore this.
So how can I explore this business opportunity without sucking up all of my time? And well, I decided I did some math and I’m like, I think there’s enough profit here where I could hire others to create the videos for me. And you know, after paying them, there’ll be a little bit of a cut for me. And so that’s what I did.
I, Ended up for the most part, hiring people on Upwork and basically posting a job for a user generated content. influencers, people willing to create these types of videos where they review a product from Amazon. And this is, this is a big question I get a lot is like, well, how did I get them the product?
Um, well, I didn’t, I asked people to just record videos of products that they already have in their own house. Um, just to pick up a product, record a video. And then they send the video to me and I upload it to my Amazon influencer account. And so out of the thousand 76 videos, like definitely over a thousand of those are videos that I did not create.
I paid people, um, to help me scale my business. And so I would pay them on a per video basis. And I had a sliding scale where I, based on how much the, the product. Cost the value of the product, right? So I don’t have those numbers right in front of me, but it was anywhere from, you know, averaged 15 to 20 per video for the most part.
Jared: And fair enough. People, I think you covered that in your, in your video too. So people can, I do, they can go into that if they need to get the details, but.
Spencer: Yeah, if they want to get the exact numbers, they can get that, but let’s call it, you know, I would, my average cost is 20 a video, something like that.
And so it penciled out that, hey, I think over, you know, six months or a year, I should make on average more than 20 per video. And, uh, I, I can say that I’ve definitely done that at this point. So, so the math did work out. Um, but that’s how I scaled. I, I had, um, five to. Well, okay, more than that. But I had five or 10 core influencers that did the bulk of those 1000 videos, right?
I tried a few people that they created some videos that weren’t great, didn’t have them do a second batch, stuck with the five or 10 people that did a great job and got tons of videos recorded. So. That, that helped me scale, you know, in the last six months of last year is really where the bulk of the videos were uploaded.
Jared: So you went about the classic, like UGC approach, user generated content approach. You’re almost. Like brand, there’s a whole sub market for this. If you go on different communities, like there’s people who specialize in UGC content creation and they do this for brands. And it’s almost like you were like the brand hiring a content, a UGC content creator.
But instead of being the brand of like a quiz and art, you were. Someone hiring to have UGC videos made about stuff. And I think that’s also key is you didn’t have to get into shipping. I remember joking with you on a podcast once, like, were you going to get a garage full of products and all this kind of stuff?
And you’re like, no, I’m not doing that. That’s not what this is. It’s literally just hiring someone to record and review, you know, products they have in the house already.
Spencer: Yeah, and there’s a lot of pros and cons to this approach, and I was well aware of the cons as well, and I decided to do it, right? Some of the cons are that I’m not strategically picking which products should be reviewed, right?
That, that’s a big approach that a lot of people do is they do a lot of analysis and like, I’m only going to review this type of product because I can see it’s low competition. And I know if I upload a video, I’m probably going to get a higher score. Um, I, I was, I’m well aware of all those things that, you know, I could have done better, but I took the streamlined, fastest, you know, quickest approach to scale.
And that approach was, like I said, letting people pick whatever product they had in their house, um, that met certain requirements in terms of it is sold on Amazon. I made sure it was priced above like 10, right? I didn’t want any things super low priced. Uh, and then I had a bunch of guidelines that they had to follow in terms of quality of video, closeups doing, you know, the actual review well, uh, but that helped me scale quickly if I was doing it myself, right, maybe I would take a more nuanced approach in terms of which products I would actually review.
Jared: And you just to let the cat out of the bag, while we’re not going to get into the specific dollars and cents of it, you. You are net positive. You are profitable on this approach. Right? So people listen, you’re like, okay, I understand the, I understand the process, but like, does this pencil out in the end?
But yes, it penciled out for you. And now you’re not only pot net positive, you’ve been net positive for a while.
Spencer: Yeah, yep, so basically by the end of last year. I was net positive. I will say that like I Invested right like I put a number of like 15, 000 hey, I’m willing to spend this much go in the hole this much and Before I see return because I know it’s gonna take three four or five months for those videos really to pick up steam And, and earn more money.
Right. Uh, and, but it does, it does pencil out. Now I am profitable. And each month, 1, 500 comes into my bank account, pure profit at this point.
Jared: And that’s the thing, like, we’ll get into how I made them. And you might hear like, Oh, Jared, you were profitable on day one because you didn’t hire the people. But I had also had to put on all this time.
Like you basically took a model. Yep. You put a little bit of process together. You, you know, you did six videos and you created something where you made an investment and it took a while to get the return. But when you look at your overall time invested, you’re now earning money from an initial monetary investment and you’re making 1, 500 a month.
You’ve earned all that money back and you hardly put any time in. And so your ROI in terms of return on investment of time is off the charts.
Spencer: Exactly. And that’s what I was trying to scale for, right? Because I’ve got other businesses, I’m super busy. Uh, so every hour I spent on my business, I’m optimizing more for that return on investment of time than I am, uh, for, for money, you know, at this point, right, my, my return on investment can be a little bit lower as long as my time invest, you know, is, is very low as well.
Jared: Yeah. And that’s, to me, the big thing about this. Program is the ROI, but like I said, you got to get detailed about ROI because it’s not just a simple equation. You got to look at it, you know, and so our ROI is high for both of us, but it’s using very different evaluators for ROI.
Spencer: Yeah, and you know, there’s, there’s one question that I’m sure listeners are asking because I know as I posted videos, we talked about this.
It is a very common question of. Okay, Spencer, you hired people. It’s not even you on your influencer account. Is this within the Amazon terms of service to have somebody else besides you as the influencer? And, uh, I will simply say that my. Account has been up for a year and a half. Amazon is, you know, obviously looked at my account.
It’s doing well. And I studied this subject a lot before I hired somebody else. And Amazon used to have in their terms of service, a line that would indicate that you as the influencer needed to be. Um, you know, in your videos, you could not outsource this. Essentially, that language was removed from their terms of service before I got started.
So two years ago, something like that, that language was removed and there is nothing in Amazon’s terms of service that says that you as a business can’t hire employees and have your employees create videos. And that’s how I look at it is I have a business model where I hire people to review products that they use in their house, and then we upload those day.
Amazon. So anyways, that’s my answer to that potential question that people might have out there.
Jared: I’m sure a bunch of people had it, you know, because anybody who’s been on the associates program knows Amazon’s terms of service is complicated, always nuanced and always a little would have interpretation.
Spencer: I would ask people to do their own due diligence. Maybe you feel like what I’m doing is breaking the Amazon terms of service. I don’t see anything like that. I’ve had no problems. I will also just say there are lots of other influencer accounts with very large businesses, very large brands involved that have.
Tens of thousands of videos that are following my exact model, right? That they are hiring dozens and dozens of different influencers. It’s all under their account. So I am not the only one doing this model.
Jared: Yeah. I’ve seen those as well, actually. Yeah. Well, let me share my approach and listeners can, like you said, kind of pick which one might suit them best.
I was also optimizing for time, ironically, but in a very different way. Because I did. Myself and my business partner, Caitlin, we did, I mean, almost all the videos. I think I tested your model out a little bit. Um, but there’s only a handful of videos outside of us. It’s basically 95 98 99 percent videos are us.
And I’d say I did 80 to 85 percent of them. Um, Caitlin didn’t end up doing that many cause I ended up being faster. And that’s the key that I’ll get into here.
Spencer: Yeah.
Jared: Um, so my approach was to do everything I owned in the house. I thought, uh, Yeah, it’s probably 100 or 200 products. As it turns out, it’s over 500 products that I made videos about that is both embarrassing and eye opening.
I mean, in a good and bad way, I guess we could leave it at that. But I think that also underscores like you have more than you think by probably a large margin. And again, being active in the niche pursuits community, that’s something people are constantly saying is, Oh my goodness, I didn’t know I had so much stuff I could make videos about.
So I can say that confidently. Um, and keep in mind that it does not have to have been purchased on Amazon. It just has to be available on Amazon. They’re very clear about that in their, in their terms. There’s like, as long as it’s available on Amazon and you’re making a video about the product and the actual product that you’re tagging when you upload that’s available on Amazon, it’s fine.
And so a lot of times you might’ve bought it. Another big box store, or it might’ve been a gift that was given to you. Um, and, and you can make a video. I’d love right after Christmas, I get all my gifts. I’m like, sweet. I don’t have to pay for this stuff and I can make a video about it. Right. So. That got me through five, six, 700 videos.
I don’t know how many, but it was over 500 videos. Then I also took the approach over time of going, um, a little bit. I did, uh, two neighbor’s houses, not their whole house, just spent like an afternoon down there. Um, I did my, my, my, my parents house, um, spent two days down there, two afternoons down there. Um, and then I’ve, I’ve done products that I’ve used at a couple of different Airbnbs I’ve stayed at over the last year and a half, ironically.
Uh, as it were, my biggest selling product during the Christmas sales season, the holiday rush of Q4 was a video I had made of a product in an Airbnb the month before, um, I’d used it all week. And I was like, Oh, I’ve been using this every day to, to, to do X. I’ll make a video about it. And that was the one that ended up making the most money for me.
So I’ve ended up finding that, you know, the thousand or so products out of the 1200 videos we’ve done, you know, are basically a combination of three things. The majority of them products I already owned next up related people that I know going over their house, getting myself familiar with those products and making videos of them.
And then. We just ended up buying 10, 20, 30 things a month from Amazon or related places that I can continue to make 10, 20, 30 videos a month. And that’s where I’ve been landing on the last six months or so. When you asked me like, Oh, you were at thousand at the end of 2023. You’re at 1200 now. Yeah. Those 200 are just from one thing.
That’s the products that we’ve gotten on Amazon or related places that are available on Amazon. So that’s the approach that I took. I. knew that if I was going to go that route, I would have to make a really good process. So I wasn’t spending a ton of time on every video. And so I was able to get it down to an average of five to eight minutes.
All in per video. That’s including not only the filming of the video, but getting the product ready, getting prepared to do the shoot, doing the video, and then uploading it to Amazon and submitting it. And so that’s the process I went through. Um, and so the vast majority of it is just me and just stuff that I own.
Spencer: And so follow up question on that. So how did you get that process? Down to so little time. How do you do it so quickly? Is it a lot of batch process? Like where you gather a bunch of products, one time, set them all up, record a bunch of videos and then upload them. Is it that kind of the process?
Jared: Yeah, it’s very much batch oriented.
I will typically film once a month. Now, last year I would film once a week and I think that it’s. For me, it was good to draw a line. Like there was a point where I was making videos about stuff I’d already purchased. And then when I moved into 2024, it’s a bit of a different process because it’s now about stuff that I’m purchasing just in that month, but getting caught up, basically making videos about everything I owned.
I took a batch process and I broke it down room by room. So I do the kitchen and I just did the kitchen. I think it was in the kitchen for like over a month, you know, cause there’s just so many little things there. Yeah. And I just go into the kitchen and I just break it down into like sections of the kitchen.
I’d be like, Hey, we’re going to be in this section, right? So every frying pan here that’s available on Amazon, we’re going to do today. And then, you know, what’s the drawer down? Oh, the drawer down is the, uh, the, you know, the, the, the, the electric tea kettles. Okay. And so I was very batch focused and then I would upload them all at once.
So I do all my videos for the day or for the week. And I’d, I’d actually send them all via like AirDrop to my computer and I just batch upload them from my computer because I could just kind of drag them over and then walk away and you know, do something with my laptop or you know, do something else around the house.
Spencer: Yeah. And one thing I will just note is that I didn’t hear an editing step in your process.
Jared: No editing, absolutely. No editing. Do not. I would, I say, don’t edit. I’m very clear about that. If I make a minor mistake in the video, it doesn’t matter because to your point, it’s supposed to just be casual. It’s okay.
If you make a little goof up, if it’s one of those goof ups that like you would need to edit it. I just started the video over. It’s quicker to just start the video over,
Spencer: right? Because the videos that you’re doing are sometimes only a minute, two minutes long, right? The average is, I’m guessing it’s a couple of minutes long.
Yeah.
Jared: Yeah. Right. Probably two minutes is probably the average. Yeah.
Spencer: Right. And so you could record a whole video and you go, I didn’t like that and do the whole thing again. And you’re still done in four minutes. I
Jared: mean, just
Spencer: right.
Jared: Dragging it into an editor would on your computer would take longer than that, but even editing, like, and I know some people who do it and on their phone, you know, you could like.
Every once in a while, if I have to like demo a product, it’s just for whatever, I’m trying to think of a nuanced product where you, you can’t really make the video in one take, by the way, this is like well under 5 percent of the time. But every once in a while you have to do that. Even then, like I’ll just use a free editing tool on my phone to just edit the two of them together.
And it’s just, there’s no transitions. There’s no blends. There’s right. But I’m telling you, that is so rare. Typically speaking, there’s no editing. You’re going straight from recording. Up to Amazon. And it’s, it’s so important. You get this process down. That’s what I spend a lot of time in the course on is teaching people how to like, get really dialed in.
Because if you’re taking 30 to 60 minutes per video, all of a sudden earning that 1, 500 a month that you’re earning isn’t very good because it’s going to take you so many hours to get there, but the ROI from what I’ve done is come up with this really honed in process to where it’s four to five hours of work a week.
Is what I was averaging throughout 2023. And then you can look at the end of the month and be like, well, four to five hours of work a week. And I made what an average of 3, 000, maybe 4, 000. If you average it out per month. Okay, well, that’s a pretty good R. O. I.
Spencer: Mm hmm. Yeah, I’m telling you, if somebody is willing to spend like 10 hours a week, 15 hours a week consistently for a year, like I would be shocked if they’re not making more money than I am for sure, you know, they should be making, you know, 34, 000 a month, probably, um, Or more right or less depending on how, how well your videos do.
We, you know, this is a business it’s risk, but if somebody is willing to put in that time, I’ll just, you know, side note, I’ve tried to convince my oldest son that he needs to be doing this. Uh, if you would just put in 10 hours a week, by the time he goes, you know, to college or while he’s in college, like.
You can be making 1500 bucks a month and that pays for pretty much everything he needs.
Jared: It’s crazy. I mean, I, I, I think this will, this will be a good transition because I wanted to bring us to a close with this question for you, which is just any insights you have. And I think that there are certain things that we’ve learned that help make videos better and certain things we’ve learned that help make certain products sell or certain products sell better.
Maybe that’s what I should say, but you know, it’s not just about how many videos you make. And, um, that’s, that’s an important thing to note. A lot of people will say, how many videos do you have live? And then try to correlate that to earnings. I hear that a lot now. And I was guilty of doing it and I still do it a lot.
Like we talk like how many videos you had, Spencer? How many videos am I at? There is a correlation. How many videos you make? But it’s more because, You have to have enough irons in the fire to, you know, you have to take enough reps to get videos into carousels to get them bought, but really it’s about so much more than that because you will hear somebody who has a thousand videos making X and then you’ll hear someone has 500 videos making four X.
So there’s, there’s also a lot more nuance to it. What, what, I mean, we could do a whole podcast on it, so let’s just. Maybe say like the last 10 minutes here, what are some insights you gained insights I gained that can help people better with better with their videos, but also better with their product selection.
Just make more money in general.
Spencer: Yeah. So a couple of, I would say obvious ones that are really good insights is that higher price products tend to make more money. They just pay more commission, right? You 10 product all day long, but if you sell a thousand dollar product, that’s where the real money, even if they don’t sell
Jared: nearly as often.
Spencer: Exactly, exactly. You can sell, you know, a couple a week and, you know, that’s, that’s really, really solid. So if you can, I would start with your highest price products in your house, right? Look for things that cost 500, 1, 000. Go review all of those. That’s gonna get the best bang for your buck.
Jared: I started With all the clothing I had and like, maybe I just don’t do clothing very well, which would make sense cause I don’t own a ton of nice clothing, but like, man, that was the worst approach.
Even through that, I still came out successful. But like to your point, I went the opposite and started with all the easy low price stuff and boy, that’s stuff like high returns, uh, not much commission. You’re making like 20 cents per t shirt that gets sold. Like it was, it was, it’s, uh, that was a bad approach.
Okay.
Spencer: Um, and then the other inside is just to, to make your video actual, actually useful. Um, and a couple of tips about that is like, just jump right into the product. Don’t give some big, you know, introduction or people don’t want people going to Amazon and clicking on a review video. don’t want a story.
They don’t want rambling. They just want to see the product. And uh, so just jump right into the product, show lots of closeups, um, and be willing to share bad things about the product as well. They want an honest review. And I would say that is part of what makes a good video is knowing they can trust this person.
And part of that is like, Hey, this product would be better if it didn’t have this little feature. Or if it had this feature. So that that’s a couple of insights I would give as well.
Jared: Yeah, I agree. You’re not trying to like sell the product. This isn’t like, you know, the cutco knife person at the fair, trying to convince you to buy the knife.
Spencer: Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I would just give some tips. Uh, and then I know we’re, we’re coming to a wrap up here, Jared, and I know you’ve given a lot of tips and insights, um, what you’ve learned along the way, of course, in the course that you mentioned. Maybe you can just take a couple more minutes to. Mention kind of what, maybe what’s in the course or one or two other insights you have.
Jared: Yeah, I think that’s the devil in the details. Like the, the, the process of making videos, whatever timeline you choose to follow. Like these are things that You can pretty readily available. I think the details of making money with this is all of the nuances. You hit on a couple of them, like high price products.
I learned that the hard way
Spencer: you don’t have
Jared: to now. Um, I think there’s a lot also to be said for your videos being good enough. So you’ve got to have decent sound and decent, uh, filming, like shaking camera. Uh, blown out background, uh, being too far away, having audio that’s muffled or tinny background noise.
It doesn’t have to be really high quality, but it also can’t be low quality. Um, there’s also a ton of seasonality. To it. Um, like what you’re selling today, which we’re in the middle of summer will look vastly different to what you’re selling in the middle of November and Q4 sales season. And so understanding that, um, uh, and understand how to like play the seasonality game with the influencer program is black so much in that, like,
Spencer: yeah,
Jared: I didn’t realize, and it’s interesting by the way, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but a lot of my summer videos, videos about products people buy in the summer That I made last year at the very beginning of the influencer program.
And then they went out of Vogue because people don’t buy gardening stuff in November. Yeah, we’ll come back. That’s what’s so cool about it. And so I’m so excited about like my video about, you know, say Christmas stuff or warm weather stuff, hopefully coming back, but understanding the seasonality of it and then just getting that process down, like.
It’s just, I think that’s the biggest insight is you need a process. And for me, I have the same kind of script I say every time. I obviously just modify it for the phone case and the coffee mug and the microphone and all that. It gets modified, but it’s a very repeatable script I’ve developed and written.
That is something you can adapt really quickly. And then. Adapt to your product, but you don’t have to spend all this time writing the script, uh, for every product you don’t have to spend. And then obviously the filming process, making sure it’s efficient. Cause that’s for me, what made this successful? If I was spending 30 minutes, 60 minutes per video, my ROI would be like, I just traded a job, basically, you know, I got a new job that’s paying me 4, 000 a month, but for me, the benefit is learning how to do this so that I spent four or five hours a week and I’m making three to 4k a month.
Spencer: Yeah. And again, I I’m a huge fan of sort of standard operating procedures. Processes that can make us better and hopefully make us a little bit more money. So yeah, people want to check out your processes for the Amazon influencer program. They can go to niche pursuits. com slash product review process or product review profits.
You know, I’m going to say that wrong. So you can just click the link in the description. That’s going to be a lot easier. It’ll be in the description if you want to check it out. Yeah,
Jared: it’s a bit of a mouthful. No, it’s a, it’s a, I’m really excited about it. I, as, as if you’re on my email list, you get my emails every week.
You know, that like, I just can’t write a short email. You know, this is the course is falls that similar vein. It’s it ended up being a lot longer than I thought it was going to be.
Spencer: I’m sure there’s a lot of good, good nuggets of information in there. So, but this has been fun being able to, you know, sort of catch up and talk about the Amazon influencer program.
I still think today it’s a very good opportunity. I started a year and a half ago. It’s still up and going strong. So I see no reason why people can’t jump in and.
Jared: You know, my favorite thing to wrap it up about all this is, is, and you and I have had to get on the podcast every week to talk about the news in our industry.
And so many people, so many people have had their side hustle decimated really pretty much by Google. There’s been a lot around that environment, you know, a lot of, you know, So it’s not just Google, but just the classic, um, uh, blogging and profits will come model has certainly gone through so much, um, uh, tumultuous times, this has been something so positive to talk about.
And so. Encouraging to do. And I know it’s silly. I’ve only spent four or five hours a week, but getting to work on a project where you, you are doing a side hustle, you are doing a make money online sort of venture, seeing the rewards come so quickly, you upload a video, you make money on it, you know, the next week and seeing that continue to grow over time.
It’s been such an uplifting process. Like it’s such, it’s just been nice to have this positive reinforcement. Where a lot of our niche sites or something else haven’t been going as well. So I almost didn’t full look back of the last year. So it’s just been such a good experience.
Spencer: And it’s such a perfect fit for niche pursuits.
I, I created niche pursuits really to explore these niche. Business ideas, just these online business ideas that maybe it’s a side hustle. Maybe it’s a full time business. And the Amazon influencer is one that I didn’t see coming. It kind of caught me out of left field, you know, and, uh, we have people on the podcast to talk about.
Their side hustles, their businesses. We’ve had a couple that talked about the Amazon influencer program that they inspired me. And so I started it, you started it, uh, and it’s still going well. So, uh, yeah, definitely a positive, just kind of a cool opportunity out there with the Amazon influencer program.
Jared: So if you’re looking to, to, you know, learn more about our dive in. There is a course bonuses are available, uh, within the first week of the podcast coming out. Um, but the, uh, the course will be, will be live in perpetuity course. If you want to get the course and then get someone to help walk alongside you, try out the niche pursuits community.
That’s where Spencer and I talk a lot about all the questions that people have to share some, some more stuff on there so you can jump into the community. It’s a pretty active, uh, influencer, uh, community. And, um, we’ll keep talking about this. This isn’t, we’re not going away, but we tend to talk about it.
On a Friday episode and, uh, we wanted to do a full review, a full hour towards it. And so that’s what we did here today. So Spencer, congrats on being the inspiration to me. Um, cause I’ll say I, I had never heard of it until you talked about it. And here we are both doing a recap video. Over a year later about how successful it is.
And like you said, what a cool thing.
Spencer: It’s been a lot of fun. It’s been fun to talk about here as well. And so thanks for, uh, letting me come on the show and, uh, doing a whole hour long, uh, interview on it. You know, this probably won’t be the last side hustle we tried, but, uh, this is currently a really fun one.
So thanks for letting me talk about it.
Jared: Well, maybe we’ll do a, uh, a part two somewhere down the road, but until then, we’ll see you on Friday.
Spencer: All right. That sounds good. Thanks everyone.